Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program

[Fernando Gont <[e-mail]>]

On 26/8/19 08:40, Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2019, at 10:30 PM, Fernando Gont <[e-mail]
>> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>> When should my ISP start billing me for the "true Internet" service?
>> When it works with Google, or with everyone? If the former: Does it
>> matter? If the latter: would it ever happen?
> 
> 1. provide endpoint services that use certified implementations
> 2. give me real Internet service, per below
> 
> No, this won’t fix everything. But it’s the set of steps we need to take
> first.
> 
> The next step is to highlight where these rules don’t work as not
> working. Not endorse them as “de facto changes to the baseline”.

Some comments:

1) With many current implementations, some of the packets you expect to
pass-through will simply consume lots of resources. SO the will end up
being dropped.

2) "real ip address" is, in many cases, just not feasible --
particularly for folks joining the business late -- unless you're
assuming IPv6.

3) Some of the things you mention below go against current operational
practices -- e.g. packet filtering by operators. -- even the lack of a
dns reverse mapping may make mail-relaying fail (not taht it has proven
to be affective to stop spam ;-), but..)

4) Regarding "SEND ANY", I assume you really mean "SEND". Now, where do
you draw the line as whether filtering does not allow sending, or simply
is a receive policy at some point?


Note: I'm note necessarily arguing against the text you quoted, but
rather arguing about its feasibility.

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Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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