[arch-d] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt

Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Tue, 21 January 2020 00:40 UTC

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From: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 07:40:22 +0700
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Dear architecture-discuss,

I finded this program concerned with "User": "Design Expectations vs
Deployment Reality" (IAB. June 2019)--one, as I could remember, has not
been mentioned/announced explicitly/exclusively but can be traced with the
issue "Centralizaton or diversity" in this architecture-discuss list: a
concern with "User" was a point of departure as it said about deployment
models have potentials to users and future protocol evolution:

https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/dedr-workshop/


One of its papers presented was "Great Expectations: Protocol Design and
Socio-economic Realities" (Dirk Kutscher) attempted to touch the real world
conditions, socio-economic initiatives, of the Internet architecture, thus
"Users" of the Internet technology made possible by the architecture.

https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2019/05/p14-
kutscher-internet-design-kutscher.pdf

Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Senin, 20 Januari 2020, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> menulis:

> Hi SM,
>
> Well spotted.
>
> I've modified the text in my copy:
>
> "Even before the IETF was established, the Internet technical community
> has focused on user needs since at least {{?RFC0001}}, which stated..."
>
> Cheers and thanks,
>
>
> > On 15 Dec 2019, at 2:22 am, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > There is the following in Section 3: "The IETF has focused on user needs
> since [RFC0001] ..."  That is like stating that the IETF has focused on
> user needs since 1969.  How could that be possible if the first IETF
> meeting was held in 1986?
> >
> > Regards,
> > S. Moonesamy
> >
>
> --
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