Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing 5G new services

[Vittorio Bertola <[e-mail]>]

> Il 13/04/2020 20:56 John C Klensin <[e-mail]> ha scritto:
> 
> If there is a message in those things, I think it is
> either that we are not good at predicting which of our
> innovations will be successful and which will not or that, when
> the IETF says "go forth and do X", thee are no guarantees that
> the world will listen.

Incidentally, the attempted discussion on the relationship between the IETF and non-technical, policy-oriented stakeholders would also be pertinent to this. Sometimes, the world seems not to have listened (or even actively resisted) because what the IETF did was not aligned with non-technical incentives, or was affecting some other stakeholders too negatively.

> And I expect it will be some years more before we actually know
> whether our more recent push toward encryption has helped the
> Internet and its users by increasing privacy or whether pushback
> and reactions from the political and law enforcement sectors
> ultimately result in fragmentation, large-scale interconnection
> problems, and the either development of a lot of ad hoc
> solutions or movement of work to other SDOs because the IETF was
> too stuck on the importance of encryption no matter what.   I
> don't predict that outcome and definitely don't wish for it, but
> I think our architectural work would be improved by more
> recognition of the possibility.

Or, in general, by having a dialogue in advance with the rest of the Internet community on this kind of far-reaching change, so that the resulting non-technical issues are at least understood properly, and possibly taken into account in the design; and an alignment of interests can be created to promote the change.

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