Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Mon, 18 November 2019 01:31 UTC
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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt
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> On 18 Nov 2019, at 9:29 am, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > There's a lot of good stuff in this draft. Just one point caught my eye: > >> 4.6. Deprioritising Internal Needs >> >> There are a number of needs that are very visible to us as >> specification authors, but should explicitly not be prioritised over >> the needs of end users. >> >> These include: convenience for document editors, IETF process >> matters, and "architectural purity". > > I suggest making the last point: "architectural purity" for its own sake. > There are certainly many cases where the argument *for* architectural > purity is the principle of least astonishment, which directly benefits > the user experience. I like that - thanks. > Another point that occurs to me is whether the draft should say something > about user interface issues. Of course that topic is out of IETF scope, > but the protocol model may affect the UI in ways that have great > impact on the user. I think that's a *great* area for discussion. > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 18-Nov-19 13:43, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Internet Architecture Board IETF of the IETF. >> >> Title : The Internet is for End Users >> Author : Mark Nottingham >> Filename : draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt >> Pages : 11 >> Date : 2019-11-17 >> >> Abstract: >> This document explains why the IAB believes the IETF should consider >> end users as its highest priority concern, and how that can be done. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-for-the-users/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-for-the-users-01 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-iab-for-the-users-01 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-iab-for-the-users-01 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture-discuss mailing list > Architecture-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-… Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-for-the-users-… Brian E Carpenter