Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandemics/Emergencies/Crises

Guntur Wiseno Putra <> Thu, 28 May 2020 12:50 UTC

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Dear Andrew &

"Covid-19 Emergency Response" is currently a main concern for the
Internet-related workers/learners (--and I am making a reading list at the
ISOC Open Forum Library "The Internet and Emergencies/Crises: Covid-19"):

The Internet for Covid-19 Emergencies/Crises Response Programme?

"What Does a Global Pandemic Mean for the Internet"?

"ISOC Emergency Response Programme Grant: Covid-19"

There is a UN-sponsored initiative --especially regarding with people of
"communication and data management"-- which may work on the
Internet-related problems:Volunteers for Novel Coronavirus (Covid 19)
Pandemic Response

There are "Liaison Statements" between the Internet Engineering Task Force
(IETF) and the International Telecommunication Union-Telecommunication
Standards (ITU-T) on "Emergency Telecommunications" available at

The International Telecommunication Union's page on "COVID-19"

Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Senin, 11 Mei 2020, Andrew Sullivan <> menulis:

> Hi,
> I'm employed by the Internet Society and Internet Society Foundation [1]
> as the CEO, and speaking with that hat on, though I'm posting from my
> home address as a matter of convenience.
> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 05:33:19PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > In reading the ISOC call for proposals page, i am pretty sure that
> > they wouldn't bother about long-term, fundamental architecture
> improvements
> > as being within scope.
> The COVID-19 fund is an emergency-response fund, yes.  There is a
> planned research tranche of funding from the ISOC Foundation to come
> available for application later in the year.  Formal architecture work
> is more likely to fit under that category.
> > certinly a key tool, but to me the ISOC call for proposals looks like
> > very much baked to favour established administrative entities (must be
> > able to have track record to manage the money). Aka: I fear it will
> > exclude core technical innovators that have not managed to build up
> > a bureaucracy large enough to deal with money that way. Too bad.
> The ISOC Foundation is a granting agency.  It's intended to give money
> to others, not to run programmes of its own, so the entity that gets
> the money needs to be able to manage it.  If nothing else, US law
> requires those giving out charitable grants to be able to account for
> the money, and that is the reason that the Foundation requires
> recipients to account for the money they receive.  This is a pretty
> standard requirement.
> > Managing the money is a service that ISOC should be able to provide
> > to innovators.
> This seems like a request that ISOC get into the business of direct
> support for innovation research with respect to the Internet.  There
> has been some thinking about this.  I suspect that an IAB list is the
> wrong place to discuss how ISOC should construct its future
> programmes, however, and I encourage people who want to have such
> discussions to be members of the Internet Society and have that
> discussion on ISOC mailing lists.
> Best regards,
> A
> [1] Strictly speaking, the Internet Society and the Internet Society
> Foundation are separate entities.  The Foundation is a supporting
> organiation of the Internet Society.  Historically, the Internet
> Society provided both grants to others and also undertook activities
> through its own staff.  This tended to muddy the waters grants
> vs. staff activity.  With the Foundation, therefore, we have the
> opportunity to make clear which things are simply grants to others
> (who get the money and are therefore responsible for managing it) and
> which things are activities of the Internet Society itself.  Formally,
> the ISOC Foundation's Board of Directors is the same as ISOC's Board
> of Trustees, and as currently constituted I'm the CEO of both; in
> practice the Foundation has a separate Executive Director and budget.
> The money to support the IETF, by the way, actually comes from the
> Foundation.
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
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