Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the-users-02> (The Internet is for End Users)
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Thu, 06 February 2020 00:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the-users-02> (The Internet is for End Users)
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I find this document very frustrating. The explicit recommendations seem reasonable. But the underlying tone that the End User concerns should take precedence over everything else seems to be incorrect. And therefore the initial tone seems to send the wrong message. To provide several examples, the Internet is "for" many participants. It is for the folks offering services over the Internet. It is for the many sensors and small devices which are expected to outnumber human users by a significant margin in the near term. It is "for" the folks who run it, as if they can not operate the network then it won't do anyone else any good. I believe many of these concerns were raised by other people during earlier discussions of the document. Assuming efforts were made to address those concerns, the changes seem to me to be insufficient. Yours, Joel On 2/5/2020 5:48 PM, IAB Executive Administrative Manager wrote: > This is an announcement of an IETF-wide Call for Comment on > draft-iab-for-the-users-02. > > The document is being considered for publication as an Informational RFC > within the IAB stream, and is available for inspection at: > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-for-the-users/> > > The Call for Comment will last until 2020-03-04. Please send comments to > architecture-discuss@ietf.org and iab@iab.org. > > Abstract: > > This document explains why the IAB believes the IETF should consider > end users as its highest priority concern, and how that can be done. > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Michael StJohns
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] [Last-Call] Call for Comment: <draft… Rob Sayre
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Keith Moore
- Re: [arch-d] [Last-Call] Call for Comment: <draft… Michael StJohns
- Re: [arch-d] [Last-Call] Call for Comment: <draft… Michael StJohns
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] [Last-Call] Call for Comment: <draft… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [arch-d] [Last-Call] Call for Comment: <draft… Rene Struik
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Jared Mauch
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-f… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the… Guntur Wiseno Putra