Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the-users-02> (The Internet is for End Users)

"Joel M. Halpern" <> Thu, 06 February 2020 00:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the-users-02> (The Internet is for End Users)
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I find this document very frustrating.

The explicit recommendations seem reasonable.

But the underlying tone that the End User concerns should take 
precedence over everything else seems to be incorrect.  And therefore 
the initial tone seems to send the wrong message.

To provide several examples, the Internet is "for" many participants. 
It is for the folks offering services over the Internet.  It is for the 
many sensors and small devices which are expected to outnumber human 
users by a significant margin in the near term.  It is "for" the folks 
who run it, as if they can not operate the network then it won't do 
anyone else any good.

I believe many of these concerns were raised by other people during 
earlier discussions of the document.  Assuming efforts were made to 
address those concerns, the changes seem to me to be insufficient.


On 2/5/2020 5:48 PM, IAB Executive Administrative Manager wrote:
> This is an announcement of an IETF-wide Call for Comment on
> draft-iab-for-the-users-02.
> The document is being considered for publication as an Informational RFC
> within the IAB stream, and is available for inspection at:
> <>
> The Call for Comment will last until 2020-03-04. Please send comments to
> and
> Abstract:
>     This document explains why the IAB believes the IETF should consider
>     end users as its highest priority concern, and how that can be done.
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