Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from hosts to overlay edge nodes. Any opinion?
Dino Farinacci <dino@cisco.com> Wed, 15 February 2012 22:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from hosts to overlay edge
nodes. Any opinion?
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> I've so far stayed pretty quiet on this, but, on this, I have to strongly > disagree. It is not FUD that multicast doesn't scale well inside large There are others who probably wish to not divulge their proprietary scalign numbers who would disagree with you. > datacenters -- it is a simple fact, and I speak as an operator of what > several of my vendors called the 2nd largest multicast deployment they > have ever seen, with many 10's of thousands (S,G) entries. It depends what you are comparing 10,000 to. Comparing to unicast numbers would not being comparing apples with apples. Remember the granularity of a multicast route is much finer than a unciast route because it wants to conserve bandwidith and build good distribution trees. It is a simple bandwidth versus state tradeoff and 10,000 is pretty large. Many think a data center with 10,000 hosts are large too. I know you can one-mag-up us Igor, but 10,000 is a large number for enterprise sites. Dino
- [armd] address resolution requirement from hosts … Linda Dunbar
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Mike McBride
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… David Allan I
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… David Allan I
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Mike McBride
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Mike McBride
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Michael K. Smith - Adhost
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Joel jaeggli
- [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: addr… Thomas Narten
- Re: [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: … Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: … Linda Dunbar
- Re: [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: … AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: … David Allan I
- Re: [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: … Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Igor Gashinsky
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Igor Gashinsky
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Igor Gashinsky
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [armd] address resolution requirement from ho… Michael K. Smith - Adhost
- Re: [armd] Multicast in the data center [was Re: … thomas.morin