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Re: [art] Against BCP 190

"Henry S. Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> Sat, 13 July 2019 14:25 UTC

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:24:20 +0100
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Subject: Re: [art] Against BCP 190
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S Moonesamy writes:

> If the Working Group is against RFC 7320, it could submit a draft to
> change it.  I suggest considering the time it could take to get that
> through the IETF process.

I would also point interested parties to _Building Protocols with HTTP_
(draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis-08 [1]), which covers very similar issues
to those in 7320.  When I pushed back on aspects of an earlier draft
similar to those Rob Stradling is concerned by, I was unsuccessful.  The
rebuttal to my objections was grounded in the fact that this BCP is
focussed on _specifications_. Specifications are (or ought to be) open
to multiple implementations.  Baking in _any_ aspect of URI syntax in a
spec was held to amount to an unreasonable/unnecessary constraint on
implementors.

ht

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis-08
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