Re: [art] Artart telechat review of draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity-05

Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com> Tue, 12 April 2022 20:22 UTC

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From: Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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Subject: Re: [art] Artart telechat review of draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity-05
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Hi Russ, Randy,

Thanks for confirming that this has been discussed and agreed on – I will remove the DISCUSS.

Francesca

From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Date: Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 21:13
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
Cc: art@ietf.org <art@ietf.org>, sidrops@ietf.org <sidrops@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity.all@ietf.org <draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity.all@ietf.org>, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Subject: Re: [art] Artart telechat review of draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity-05


> On Apr 12, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim: many thanks for this review. Randy, Russ: thanks for taking Tim’s
>> comments into account. Very minor – I personally would vote for “The
>> RPKI is for Authorization” to “To Summarize”, since that gives a
>> better hint of the section content.
>
> wfm if it works for russ, wg chairs, and ace

Fine with me.

>
>> I balloted DISCUSS on the document because I have a question about the
>> chosen track for the document, but I expect to remove the block after
>> a short discussion about it.
>
> it was at first.  but the wg decided otherwise, pretty much because of
> the really disgusting abuses.

Right.  WG choose to progress as a standards-track document.

Russ