Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2
Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> Thu, 05 June 2003 23:29 UTC
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From: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 17:20:57 -0600
> From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> > ... > The example I posted about a student sending personal queries to some > experts -- and let's remember it does not matter how the student got > their addresses -- is unsolicited, but should not count as bulk. > ... Why not!? "Bulk" does not mean "spam," if you are defining "spam" and you are not insisting that "spam" and "bulk" are synonyms. If your student sent a lot of substantially identical messages, it makes no sense to say they are not bulk. You might say that 2, 20, 200, 2000, or however many are not enough to be "a lot" or "bulk." You might also insist (incorrectly, in my view) that the student's spew was not spam, but "bulk" is not a word that you reasonably redefine. "Bulk" means "lots of the same stuff" in English. Or as http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=bulk puts it, "material that forms a mass in the intestine; especially: FIBER" It's crazy to set out to define "spam" and procede by redefining words that are already well defined in English. If you think "unsolicited bulk email" is a bad definition of "spam," then propose other English (or Latin, or whatever) words. Don't embark on an infinite regression of (re)defining the words that you are (re)defining that you are (re)defining that ... Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Dave Crocker
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Dave Crocker
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Dave Crocker
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Peter Kay
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Peter Kay