RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list

Walt,

I think those type of comments and questions about what is patentable or
not are unproductive to this list, mainly because patents are a complex
area of expertise. Unless you're a seasoned patent attorney, patent
examiner, or one that has submitted several patents and gone through the
examination process many times, all one can offer is something less than
a "armchair quarterback" opinion that will typically lead to even more
guessing and we'll end up getting excited over nothing.

Asking technical people for their opinions on the patent process is like
asking laypeople to comment on complex software architecture: you'll get
comments that are completely out of scope and wildly incorrect.  

If there are any patent attorneys on this list, let them step forward.
The rest of us should focus on doing what this group is chartered to do.
See http://www.irtf.org/charters/asrg.html

Peter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: waltdnes@waltdnes.org [mailto:waltdnes@waltdnes.org] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: ASRG list
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list
> 
> 
>   Just how broad are these C/R ("Challenge/Response") patents 
> anyways? As a university student approximately 30 years ago, 
> I spent a couple of summers in the Canadian Armed Forces 
> Militia (i.e. reserves), as a summer job.  One item we 
> learned was... wait for it... challenge/response to let the 
> "good guys" in and keep the "bad guys" out.  I'm sure that 
> any military college will have manuals detailing how it's 
> done.  This is an ancient military practice, and I don't see 
> why computer software doing it versus a soldier on patrol 
> doing it is sufficiently different to rule it out as "prior art".
> 
> -- 
> Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
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