RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Consent (was: Another criteria for "what is spam"...))
"Peter Kay" <peter@titankey.com> Fri, 06 June 2003 02:09 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Consent (was: Another criteria for "what is spam"...))
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From: Peter Kay <peter@titankey.com>
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Dave, > > Peter, > > PK> Bulk email is defined as the transmission of 2 or more > emails via a > PK> primarily automated process. > > I believe that we do not care whether it was automated, and > we have no way to tell that it was automated. > > Hence, citing that characteristic does not give us any useful > technical guidance for preventing, detecting or disposing of spam. > I'm unclear here. Are you saying that because today we don't try to detect automation we can't use the term bulk? > And the number '2' is certain to be highly problematic. > > > PK> Unsolicited email is defined as email where the recipient has not > PK> explicitly approved of receiving bulk email from the sender. > > The example I posted about a student sending personal queries > to some experts -- and let's remember it does not matter how > the student got their addresses -- is unsolicited, but should > not count as bulk. > > I don't know why you would post about some extreme unlikelyhood and then use that as a position to discredit a definition. But to directly answer your question, if a student hand-typed individiual emails and sent them out one by one to a list of email addresses, that would not qualify as UBE. It would be U but not B. > PK> OK gang, fire away. > > bang. bang. > > d/ > -- > Dave Crocker <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com> > Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com> > Sunnyvale, CA USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253>, <fax:+1.866.358.5301> > > _______________________________________________ > Asrg mailing list > Asrg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg > > > _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Dave Crocker
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Dave Crocker
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Dave Crocker
- Re: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Peter Kay
- RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Co… Peter Kay