Re: [Asrg] who has the message (was Re: Consensus Call - submission via posting (was Re: Iteration #3))

Paul Russell <prussell@nd.edu> Tue, 09 February 2010 15:48 UTC

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On 2/9/2010 10:08, Andrew Richards wrote:
> A better way of expressing myself would be "...how long it takes 'normal' 
> users to report TiS for a message from its first presentation to the user" 
> which would cover the user deleting messages purely based on the message 
> preview you mention below.

The vast majority of the complaints we receive about spam sent from compromised
accounts arrive within 2 days of the incident.  In several cases, we received
reports 4-6 weeks after the incidents.  In one case, we received a report nearly
4 months after the incident.  There is probably no practical reason to report
anything more than 3 days old.

-- 
Paul Russell, Senior Systems Administrator
OIT Messaging Services Team
University of Notre Dame