RE: [Asrg] Spam Ecomomics

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gadi Evron [mailto:ge@linuxbox.org]
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 2:19 AM
> To: Hannigan, Martin
> Cc: asrg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] Spam Ecomomics
> 
> 
> > SPAM EcoNomIc Model "SPAMEMIM" (Like "Eminem")
> > 
> >   NSP       -- LAYER 4  IMPORTANT
> >   ISP       -- LAYER 3  
> >   SPAMMER   -- LAYER 2
> >   ENDUSER   -- LAYER 1  LESS IMPORTANT
> > 
> > At layer 3 and 4, economic attack. 
> > At layer 3 and 1, technology attack.
> > 
> > Relationship Matrix
> > 
> > Layer 3 and 4
> > Layer 3 and 1
> > 
> > There's never a relationship top Layer 2 i.e. noone spends
> > time on "getting" the spammer, the efforts are focusing on 
> > fixing the user.
> 
> Hi Martin. I really enjoyed your email. However, if I understood it 
> right, you are saying spam costs ISP's and is not beneficial?

>  From your own text I'd have concluded the opposite [if I 
> understood you 
> right].
> 
> Beginning in people paying for bigger tubes, through people 
> paying for 
> spam solutions all the way to paying for spam email solutions 
> at the ISP.

Gadi, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean. Can you elaborate
a bit further?

Let me try what I did get.

Spam does not cost at the higher levels i.e. peering. It costs in transit
fees. Large entity peering == settlement free. transit == $.

Thanks!

-M<

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