Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs

Steve Atkins <steve@blighty.com> Wed, 16 December 2009 01:50 UTC

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On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:

> I think allowing end users access to such a button is a terrible idea.
> This is the same population that routinely replies to spam, falls for
> phishes, and fails to correctly execute rudimentary tasks like unsubscribing
> from a mailing list or trimming quoted material from replies.  It would
> be simpler and about as accurate to simply check a random number generator's
> output for a "spam?/not-spam?" opinion.

Data from actual reality contradicts your (otherwise plausible) reasoning.

Cheers,
  Steve