Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
Paul Smith <paul@pscs.co.uk> Fri, 26 October 2012 14:20 UTC
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On 26/10/2012 14:32, Matthias Leisi wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote: > >> I believe it's going to be common enough that legitimate MTAs will move >> around within their /64 quite frequently (privacy extensions that are > Using a /64 as a default seems reasonable, but a new standard for > DNSxL lookups should provide some flexibility, either for a full list > ("default prefix length = /56") or on a more granular level (using > John L.'s original proposal, or some other useful method). > The problem with a /64 for black/white listing is that it's not quite the same as an IPv4 /32. So, at the moment we may have a /25 or /26 block, but we'd still have a single IPv6 /64 We may run 50 customer dedicated mail servers on our /64 block, and ideally we'd want each to have their own reputation. So, we couldn't do this if DNSBL/WL filtering is on a /64 block. With our current IPv4 /26 each customer's server would have it's own reputation on an IPv4 DNSBL/WL. Obviously we couldn't say what level of granularity we'd want, or spammers would just say 'we want /128 granularity', to overload everything. We could (theoretically) get a /48 block, but that would be a waste (I know there are LOTS of /48's out there, but still), since we wouldn't need it for routing, just for making it work with /64 based black/whitelisting. I can't think of a good answer to this, but our case is a use case which isn't going to be that unusual. - Paul Smith Computer Services Tel: 01484 855800 Vat No: GB 685 6987 53
- [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Bart Schaefer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Tim Chown
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Scott Howard
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine