Re: [Asrg] request for review for a non FUSSP proposal

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Fri, 26 June 2009 11:44 UTC

Return-Path: <vesely@tana.it>
X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30523A697B for <asrg@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.181
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.589, BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uQDkJSMffMNR for <asrg@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wmail.tana.it (wmail.tana.it [62.94.243.226]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FCA3A68ED for <asrg@irtf.org>; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [172.25.197.158] (pcale.tana [172.25.197.158]) (AUTH: CRAM-MD5 ale@tana.it, TLS: TLS1.0, 256bits, RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1) by wmail.tana.it with esmtp; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:37:59 +0200 id 00000000005DC033.000000004A44B317.00000B47
Message-ID: <4A44B317.9010409@tana.it>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:37:59 +0200
From: Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg@irtf.org>
References: <4A3DFC91.2090506@telmon.org> <4A3F9B2B.8020603@tana.it> <4A3FF3AF.9030401@telmon.org>
In-Reply-To: <4A3FF3AF.9030401@telmon.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: [Asrg] request for review for a non FUSSP proposal
X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg@irtf.org>
List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg.irtf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>, <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.irtf.org/mail-archive/web/asrg>
List-Post: <mailto:asrg@irtf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>, <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:44:54 -0000

Claudio Telmon wrote:
>> problem in the transition to consent-enabled mailboxes: When users 
>> switch their mailboxes to consent-enabled, they lose the ability to 
>> receive any message from consent-unaware senders, including friends, 
>> business contacts, mailing lists, banks and similar notification 
>> services, reminders, cell phones, etcetera.
>
> You're absolutely right, of course. This is the most critical deployment
> issue, and I have tried to consider some strategies in the "deployment" 
> section. Nobody could actually "switch" to consent-enabled mailboxes: a 
> gradual, albeit less effective transition path is required.

Your are right, in turn: after reading the "deployment" section, it is 
fairly clear that a transition is not necessary. I'm not sure how well 
point "Voluntary participation" 2.3.9 of Danny's criteria connotes 
your framework as not being an anti-spam technique. I think it may 
actually have more chances when explicitly targeted to guard children, 
rather than generically "non FUSSP".