Re: [Asrg] What can we expect MUAs to do?

der Mouse <mouse@Rodents-Montreal.ORG> Mon, 08 February 2010 17:51 UTC

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>  * Create and render MIME.
> (No, you don't get to call yourself an MUA if you can't do that today).

Lrrfu, who died and made _you_ god of what constitutes an MUA?!

In particular, this redefinition leaves us with no term for software
that interfaces between the mail system and a user but doesn't jump
through your hoops.  Would you care to fix that, or would you rather
blinker yourself by pretending such software doesn't exist?

John at least said "or at least most" with his list.

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