Re: [Asrg] Summary/outline of why the junk button idea is pre-failed

Ian Eiloart <iane@sussex.ac.uk> Thu, 04 March 2010 15:34 UTC

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--On 4 March 2010 09:16:06 -0500 Paul Russell <prussell@nd.edu> wrote:

> On 3/4/2010 08:59, Dennis Dayman wrote:
>> Interesting article
>>
>> http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=1
>> 23574
>>
>
> The author is not interested in reducing or eliminating spam; he simply
> wants tools to validate his delusion that his spam is not spam.

Solicited marketing is not spam. For example, if I subscribe to my local 
cinema's weekly listings by email, then that email is solicited marketing. 
No problem there, as long as I can easily opt out again when I want to.

Furthermore, if the cinema has a variety of messages - weekly listings, 
film reviews, special offers, etc, then it would be a good idea to get 
feedback on what each subscriber likes, so that the cinema can target each 
message at people who like them.

Personally, I'd rather get that stuff from an RSS feed. But, it would still 
be nice if the feed had similar feedback mechanisms.

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Ian Eiloart
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