RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list
"Bob Wyman" <bob@wyman.us> Sat, 21 June 2003 20:35 UTC
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From: Bob Wyman <bob@wyman.us>
To: 'Peter Kay' <peter@titankey.com>, asrg@ietf.org
Cc: 'Yakov Shafranovich' <research@solidmatrix.com>
Subject: RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list
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Peter Kay wrote: > I think that's a reach on this patent. This one talks about > facilitating transactions, maybe like a paypal system. It > has virtually nothing to do with spam. I agree that it is a bit of a stretch, however, even though it is not written as an "anti-spam" patent, it still incorporates a process of "challenge and response" via email messages that somewhat resembles the method used in C/R systems which are specifically intended to prevent spam. One might argue that sending email messages is a form of "transaction." Or, it might be that you would infringe on this patent if you combined a C/R system with one of the "pay to send" or "postage stamp" systems that have been proposed elsewhere. In that case, the transaction would be paying for the postage. It is also possible that one might argue that since this process of "challenge and response" (although not called that in this patent) had been incorporated into a patent application whose predecessor was filed as long ago as 1994, that establishes that the method of C/R was "obvious" to one skilled in the art by the time that later C/R related patent applications were being filed five, six or more years later. Also, at least one of the inventors on this patent has claimed that he believes it *may* be relevant to spam... bob wyman _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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- RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list Bob Wyman
- RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list Yakov Shafranovich
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- RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list Yakov Shafranovich
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