Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
Rob McEwen <rob@invaluement.com> Thu, 25 October 2012 15:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
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On 10/25/2012 10:48 AM, Emanuele Balla (aka Skull) wrote: > So you're basically suggesting that MXs should not allow any IPv6 SMTP > connection unless it's coming from a trusted entity, and only MSAs > should speak IPv6. No. I'm talking about AUTHENTICATED e-mail that is, by design, NOT considered the "sending IP" for that message. Maybe the "originate IP"... but not the "sending IP". I'm not sure what you mean by "only MSAs", this wouldn't prevent the use of IPv6 for OTHER uses. My answers below should clear this up... > In other words, you're basically suggesting something like "do not > publish any AAAA record for your MXs and just rely on IPv4, unless you > found a solution to the IPv6 spam problem". I think you must be greatly misunderstanding me. When millions of end user customers for a large set up their outlook programs (or thunderbird, or whatever)... their connection to their ISP's mail server does NOT use MX records!!!! Instead, that connection goes DIRECTLY to the "a" record of the server host name that the end user puts in the "smtp server" box in their mail client. Furthermore, since this is all happening within an ISP's IP space and to their own customers.. the ISP has MUCH granularity of control... so, if needed, directing of traffic can be manipulated somewhat by the ISP (again, if needed). > But this is not suggesting a solution anyway... yes, this is a solution. Obviously NOT the final solution long term solution... but this solves MANY problems in the meantime. -- Rob McEwen http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/ rob@invaluement.com +1 (478) 475-9032
- [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Bart Schaefer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Tim Chown
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Scott Howard
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine