Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6

"Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)" <skull@bofhland.org> Fri, 26 October 2012 08:12 UTC

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On 10/26/12 2:34 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
> 
>> Anyway, back on topic: I'm still not convinced we'd be talking about
>> IPv6-based blacklists if we didn't have a long and successful history of
>> IPv4-based blacklists.
> 
> How about enumerating goodness rather than badness?
> 
> Does anybody have a list of techniques to consider?
> 
> We don't have to list IP Addresses.  We could list domains and only accept 
> mail if the IP Address reverses to a listed domain (and forward confirms).

It's even worse, probably.
Reverse DNS lookups have the same problem DNSxL lookups have about
caching. And usually also a much higher latency because they need to hop
through several delegations before getting an answer.


>> Can't we do something entirely different for IPv6? Like, use domain-based
>> filtering by making it mandatory to DKIM-sign a message you send over IPv6
>> outside of your network?
> 
> Does DKIM tell me anything about the sending site being good or bad?

No, but gives you an hook (the signing entity) you can bind to a
reputation score.


> If I get a DKIM signed message, I could lookup the domain rather than the 
> sender's IP address.  Does that avoid the too-many-IPv6 addresses problem?

Not necessarily. See subdomaining...


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