Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
"Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)" <skull@bofhland.org> Fri, 26 October 2012 08:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
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On 10/26/12 2:34 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > >> Anyway, back on topic: I'm still not convinced we'd be talking about >> IPv6-based blacklists if we didn't have a long and successful history of >> IPv4-based blacklists. > > How about enumerating goodness rather than badness? > > Does anybody have a list of techniques to consider? > > We don't have to list IP Addresses. We could list domains and only accept > mail if the IP Address reverses to a listed domain (and forward confirms). It's even worse, probably. Reverse DNS lookups have the same problem DNSxL lookups have about caching. And usually also a much higher latency because they need to hop through several delegations before getting an answer. >> Can't we do something entirely different for IPv6? Like, use domain-based >> filtering by making it mandatory to DKIM-sign a message you send over IPv6 >> outside of your network? > > Does DKIM tell me anything about the sending site being good or bad? No, but gives you an hook (the signing entity) you can bind to a reputation score. > If I get a DKIM signed message, I could lookup the domain rather than the > sender's IP address. Does that avoid the too-many-IPv6 addresses problem? Not necessarily. See subdomaining... -- Paranoia is a disease unto itself. And may I add: the person standing next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://bofhskull.wordpress.com/
- [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Bart Schaefer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Tim Chown
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Scott Howard
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine