Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as a punishment
Derek Diget <derek.diget+asrg@wmich.edu> Tue, 24 January 2012 21:09 UTC
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On Jan 24, 2012 at 20:50 +0100, Emanuele Balla (aka Skull) wrote: =>On 1/24/12 7:23 PM, darxus@chaosreigns.com wrote: =>> As I tried to say in the past, having a value to return for all =>> queries from a DNS server that has been deemed abusive is *useful* to =>> black/whitelist providers. Enough that it's looking like it'll be done =>> whether the ASRG likes it or not. If you'd prefer something other than =>> 127.0.0.1 to be used, document it somewhere. => =>I fully agree with you, FWIW... => => =>> Also, as the linked article said, "...the 127.0.0.1 response indicates =>> that uribl.com does not accept any queries from the DNS server". =>> SpamAssassin had this handled as URIBL defined, no false positives =>> resulted. => =>Yes, and somehow that's the point: SW (like spamassassin) that deal with =>return values correctly, will not encounter FPs but this means it also =>gives the BL operator no advantage. => =>While any other return value outside 127/8, while more opportune, =>probably will affect bad implementations like 127.0.0.1 or any other code. ASRG List, See the SpamAssassin bugs ids related to this issue from just a few weeks ago. Bug 6724 - DNSxL returning purposefully wrong answers as part of Anti-Abuse / Free for Some Policies <https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6724> Bug 6728 - DNSBLs need a way to turn off queries based on BLOCKED rules triggering <https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6728> -- *********************************************************************** Derek Diget Office of Information Technology Western Michigan University - Kalamazoo Michigan USA - www.wmich.edu/ ***********************************************************************
- [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as a p… Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… darxus
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John R. Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Derek Diget
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Chris Lewis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Brendan Hide
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis