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Re: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...

kent@songbird.com Thu, 05 June 2003 01:06 UTC

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To: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...
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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:03:31 -0700

On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
> The problem I have is the fact I get 300 spams a day. The fact that those
> spams are also sent to 10 million or so others is not relevant to me. My
> problem is the fact that *I* am getting the messages. I would have exactly
> the same problem if I was the only person who got that quantity of messages.

Reality is that you get that quantity of messages because of the fact of
bulk mailings, and hence bulk mailings are relevant -- at least to the
extent that reality is relevant.  :-)

To put it another way, if bulk mailing was eliminated, your spam
problem, along with everyone else's, would be eliminated.

Kent

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