Re: [Asrg] Need to know

Scott Nelson <scott@spamwolf.com> Sat, 31 May 2003 17:48 UTC

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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:46:45 -0700

At 10:27 PM 5/27/03 +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote:
>On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:49:41AM -0700, Scott Nelson wrote:
>> Still, if we knew the average number of recipients for spam 
>> messages currently, and the average number for non-spam,
>
>I used the maillog of one of our mailservers of the last 22 hours.
>It saw
>    128582	RCPT TO commands in
>    110709	connections
>the data is cleaned of 5 customers that did newsletter injects today
>that consisted of about 100-250 recipients per connection).
>

Thanks, that's helpful.

From one of my mailservers;
   3525    RCPT TO commands in
   2794    connections
almost all of it to spamtrap addresses.

A considerably higher ratio, but still much less than 2:1.

Two data points - probably not enough to draw valid conclusions,
but still way better than zero data points.  It would be nice 
to see data from a domain with large numbers of users, 
like aol or hotmail.


Scott Nelson <scott@spamwolf.com>

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