Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
"Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)" <skull@bofhland.org> Thu, 25 October 2012 14:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6
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On 10/25/12 4:24 PM, Rob McEwen wrote: Hi Rob! > One thing that is harmless and which should be promoted now is the > exclusive use of IPv6 addresses for authenticated e-mail headed to the > mail server. That way, IPv6 can be dynamically assigned IPs for things > like residential customers where that end user's IPv6 would never sent > mail directly to the recipient. Then, such a mail server could, for now, > ONLY accept mail for THOSE smtp-authenticated/IPv6 sessions, and > actually refuse non-authenticated IPv6 traffic. Such a server would then > relay out such mail via IPv4. 99.9% of the argument about hurrying up > IPv6 implementation for mail servers due to running out of IPv4 IPs are > solved by this scenario since there are thousands of dynamically > assigned IPs delegated to end users for every one legitimate mail server IP. > > Not saying this is the answer for 100 years from now, but this scenario > scales well, too. When EVERYTHING is assigned an IPv6 IP (your car, your > refrigerator, etc)... those IPv6 IPs won't be prevented from sending > e-mail in the scenario I described above, even if mail servers haven't > yet moved into the IPv6 world. So you're basically suggesting that MXs should not allow any IPv6 SMTP connection unless it's coming from a trusted entity, and only MSAs should speak IPv6. This will allow to work in the upcoming IPv4 shortage scenario, as you say. But I think you underestimate how hard could be switching from this scenario to the "all IPv6" one in the future... In other words, you're basically suggesting something like "do not publish any AAAA record for your MXs and just rely on IPv4, unless you found a solution to the IPv6 spam problem". But this is not suggesting a solution anyway... ;-) -- Paranoia is a disease unto itself. And may I add: the person standing next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://bofhskull.wordpress.com/
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- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Bart Schaefer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Tim Chown
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Rob McEwen
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Scott Howard
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Hal Murray
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [Asrg] DNSBL and IPv6 John Levine