RE: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...

On June 4, 2003 at 15:53 peter@titankey.com (Peter Kay) wrote:
 > Yes but we can't define bulk mailing as spamming. But we CAN define that
 > UNSOLICITED bulk email is spamming.

Actually, I'm not that uncomfortable with defining any "bulk mailing"
as spamming.

I realize I won't get consensus on that here.

But then again few of you are ISPs expected to just come up with the
money for resources for every blitz by every fortune 1,000,000 company
who decides to unload on their (let's say for argument's sake)
legitimate mailing list hourly.

Special fares at United Airlines? Delta? Wham! Here comes 10,000 msgs
you frequent flyers!

Campbell's has a new recipe they want to share? Open wide!

NY Times, Wall St Journal, Motley Fool, Salon, etc want to send their
daily headlines and advertising payload? K'POW!

And don't tell me subscriber fees are supposed to cover this. There's
almost total disconnect as marketeers get savvier about exploiting
this medium.

That's like wishing your property taxes covered the postage for junk
paper mail. What a stupid idea that would be! Or that there should be
no postage paid by magazines because you subscribed to them.

This exercise is kinda like watching legislators make law, the OTHER
guy's use of tax money is a waste, but MY use of tax money is
essential to civilization!

Replace "tax money" with "ISP's resources" and you've got my point of
view.

This is why, without per-message fees, this system is doomed. It's
just a matter of time.

What we're doing here might postpone doom for a while by freeing up
resources for blessed floods of bull****, and those are mostly my (and
kindred) resources being freed so I have an interest in that
happening. But in my opinion not too far in the future the current
e-mail architecture will just collapse.

One reason why is because the day you stop or minimize spam the
so-called "legitimate" marketers from those fortune 1,000,000
companies will realize that their message will now get through and
will no longer be confused with those of total con-men and scams.

And those marketeers actually have money to spend. P&G spends $3B a
year on advertising, etc. Need I go on?

They're just waiting on the sidelines for you to build a nice, level
road for them to drive on, for free.

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