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Re: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...

Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> Thu, 05 June 2003 14:10 UTC

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From: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 07:58:51 -0600

> From: Dave Aronson <dja2003@hotpop.com>

> ...
> At least, not unless we can agree on what "bulk" means.  By the 
> definition proposed so far (sending to > 1 recipient, by a largely 
> automated means (not counting the automation necessary to send email at 
> all, of course)), this very list is bulk.  So is every other.  So are 
> any alerts anybody signs up for.  Where do YOU draw the line?

By any sane definition, this mailing list is "bulk."

If the the operators of this list can produce evidence of a subscription
request for every subscriber, then they cannot be conviced in ISP
"court" of sending unsolicited bulk mail and so are innocent of
"spamming" no matter how many of us employ the "luser" unsubscribe
mechanism of screaming "SPAM!"


Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com
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