RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2 (was: Implicit Consent (was: Another criteria for "what is spam"...))

> From: "Peter Kay" <peter@titankey.com>

> ...
> I agree: there is no such thing as implicit consent to receive bulk
> email. So therefore the updated definition goes like this:
>
> Spam is defined as unsolicited bulk email, or UBE
>
> Bulk email is defined as the transmission of 2 or more emails via a
> primarily automated process.
>
> Unsolicited email is defined as email where the recipient has not
> explicitly approved of receiving bulk email from the sender.
>
> Sender can mean an individual or an organization.
>
> In summary, UBE means:
>
> The transmission of multiple emails via a primarily automated process to
> recipients that have not explicitly approved to receive such emails.
>
> OK gang, fire away.

Either you keep avoiding my question or I've not asked clearly.  Why
do you insist on complicating things instead of using the dictionary
defintions of "bulk" and "unsolicited"?  What is the significance of
automation?  Would 10,000 messages sent manually not be spam?  What
is even one desirable difference between "explicitly approved to
receive" and "unsolicited?"  You say what sender can mean as
if it might mean some third thing.  What is the third possibility?
A lot of clarity is lost by replacing "unsolicited bulk email" with
your 80 words.  What is gained?

On other hand, if the intent is to discuss reasons for choosing
"unsolicited bulk email," there ought to be about 100 times as many words.

Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com
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