Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic
Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Thu, 13 December 2012 17:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic
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On 12/13/2012 09:16 AM, Barry Shein wrote: > There's also Jef Poskanzer's greymilter which basically requires one > re-send from each never before seen mail server not in a white list. > > And sendmail (and others') HELO delay (delay sending HELO a short > period of time) and don't speak until you're spoken to whatever they > call it (I use it, the sender must wait for the SMTP responses, can't > just dump an SMTP conversation at you.) > > They're basically isomorphic to hashcash type solutions, increase the > sender's cost, but very transparent and quite clever because of that. > Given botnets, anything that tries to shift burden back onto the sender is not very likely to be effective in the long run. Yes, you might get some short term relief, but the firehose is just a software update away. Mike
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- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Steve Atkins
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- Re: [Asrg] Countering Botnets to Reduce Spam Adam Sobieski
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- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Chris Lewis
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Rich Kulawiec
- Re: [Asrg] An Anti-Spam Heuristic Bill Cole
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