Re: [Asrg] C/R Thoughts: Take 1

Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net> Wed, 14 May 2003 21:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asrg] C/R Thoughts: Take 1
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From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:13:01 -0400

> > If Spam-Arrest
> > >operated in the EU, its operation would be illegal (not the
> > anti-spamming
> > >law, the data protection laws) 
> 
> I believe this is correct.

I don't play an EU Data Commissioner on the net, though I have periodically 
spoken at length with several (Berlin chiefly). "Illegal" is not something
I'd buy or sell, however, the retention, recipient, access and possibly a
few other aspects of Spam-Arrest-the-data-collector behavior are, IMO, likely
to be of interest to the DatenSchutz, for any non-sonombulist local value of
DatenSchutz. Anglophones can stick with the UK DP rules.

See the P3P schema, we put all of it there we knew about.

> Most MTA operators only keep "traffic data" for a short time. A C/R
> operator must keep some traffic data "forever".

See <retention>, but see also <purpose> elements in the P3P schema.

Eric
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