Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys
"Alan DeKok" <aland@ox.org> Wed, 19 May 2004 23:57 UTC
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From: Alan DeKok <aland@ox.org>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys
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Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote: > As far as I can tell spammers have now become domain registries and > just generate random-appearing, generated domains like www.fxbrezd.com > (or, more often, .info or .somecountryyoudon'twanttoknowmoreabout.) > For example, these whacko domains usually have functioning MX's. > > Which means they can just as easily set up SPF or Domain Key or > similar services for those randomly generated domains. <shrug> Blacklist the DNS IP. > Also, much spam from hijacked PCs seems to use the hijacked > PC's host, as in wasteofoxygen@dyn-83-155-31-99.ppp.tiscali.fr > > That sort of thing will get around these SPF/YDK approaches, right? Yes and no. It depends on how it's implemented. > Again, I don't know for a fact that this is completely useless > technology (like proof-of-work which is useless technology), but I > think it's only potentially useful against certain types of scams, > domain forgeries with malicious intent, in a very weak way, and as > such really has little to nothing to do with spam per se except > inasmuch as we can rationalize that ``anything which comes via email > and might harm or annoy me'' is hereby spam.= Is there a better suggestion on the table? This isn't to say we should do something nonsensical, simply because it's better than nothing. But it does have some applicability, a number of domains are implementing it, and the implementors are strong proponents. Alan DeKok. _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification … Yakov Shafranovich
- [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Chris
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… John Levine
- [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Philip Miller
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Alan DeKok
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys George Ou
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Mark Baugher
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Matt Sergeant
- Re: [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys der Mouse
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… William Leibzon
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys William Leibzon
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys George Ou
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Matthew Elvey
- RE: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Chris
- RE: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Chris
- blacklisting throwaway domains, was Re: [Asrg] Re… Tony Finch
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… John Capo
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Matthew Elvey
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… William Leibzon
- RE: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Chris