Re: [Asrg] ARF traffic, was Spam button scenarios

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Wed, 10 February 2010 09:55 UTC

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On 09/Feb/10 23:51, Chris Lewis wrote:
> The extant methods for determining where abuse reports are (a) usually
> wrong or missing and we're not going to bail that ocean, (b)
> insufficiently granular (both report types, but worse, breakdowns of
> space to responsible parties, ie resellers) and (c) without aggregation,
> too high volume even for automation.

You probably meant "where to send" or "where to receive", which makes 
(a) ambiguous.

For (b), the responsible party --the list controller-- is generically 
referred to as "the user". However, if they are reseller, it may be 
convenient to treat them as if they where a (trusted) domain and just 
resend ARF reports to them. We should check they apply agreed upon 
policies.

Aggregation is more subtle, unless it's done for copies of the same 
message. If reports are used for unsubscribing, a list is needed 
anyway. Would you make an attachment to the ARF report?

> Abuse@example.com is for reports of abuse originating _at_
> abuse@example.com, not for reports of abuse (eg: spam) originating
> elsewhere that example.com's users want to report.

Agreed. From a user's perspective, though, the abuse originates at the 
inbox example.com provides :-/

> I did some experimentation with automatic aggregation and
> hand-configured destinations for a small fraction of reports. That
> worked somewhat, but not worth the effort to keep touching the config.

Couldn't that result from a clever algorithm and an automatically 
maintained database?