Re: [Asrg] Need to know
Markus Stumpf <maex-lists-spam-ietf-asrg@space.net> Tue, 27 May 2003 20:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Need to know
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:27:05 +0200
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:49:41AM -0700, Scott Nelson wrote: > Still, if we knew the average number of recipients for spam > messages currently, and the average number for non-spam, I used the maillog of one of our mailservers of the last 22 hours. It saw 128582 RCPT TO commands in 110709 connections the data is cleaned of 5 customers that did newsletter injects today that consisted of about 100-250 recipients per connection). Please note that this mailserver is used by our customers as an outgoing relay and also by external users as a MX host. If you think this will make the data inaccurate I could try to filter out our customers to get better figures. The distribution is 102252 1 (aka 102252 times 1 recipient per connection) 4562 2 1983 3 674 4 435 5 351 6 132 7 109 8 101 10 52 9 16 13 9 15 9 12 8 11 3 16 3 14 2 17 1 74 1 70 1 65 1 41 1 26 1 25 1 22 1 20 If I only use those hosts that weren't a) rejected for sender address blocks (spam) b) rejected for recipient address blocks (spam) c) tagged because listed with DNSBLs the distribution is 66269 1 2781 2 575 3 248 4 125 5 84 6 54 7 54 10 39 8 21 9 4 13 3 15 3 12 3 11 2 16 1 22 1 17 1 14 The distribution for all "spam" classified emails is: 35983 1 1781 2 1408 3 426 4 310 5 267 6 78 7 70 8 47 10 31 9 12 13 6 15 6 12 5 11 2 14 1 74 1 70 1 65 1 41 1 26 1 25 1 20 1 17 1 16 What is pretty interesting is that one host md080081101018cl.neo-sky.com:80.81.101.18 first attacked in single connects with changing sender addresses <offer..@aol.com> and different target domains for about 3 hours, then it switched to a 74 messages bulk inject to addresses [a-m]*@ at one single domain from the sender address <offereo@aol.com> and 5 minutes later it fell back to single connects (that still continue). Hope this is kinda what you are looking for. As a conclusion I'd say that due to the fact that 79.52% of the emails already came in single recipient connections limiting SMTP conversations to single recipients would a) have minimal impact on the mail structure of the Internet b) have minimal impact on the success of spammers \Maex -- SpaceNet AG | Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Fon: +49 (89) 32356-0 Research & Development | D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 "The security, stability and reliability of a computer system is reciprocally proportional to the amount of vacuity between the ears of the admin" _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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