Re: [Asrg] Two ways to look at spam
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> Fri, 04 July 2003 22:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Two ways to look at spam
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 18:49:54 -0400
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 05:33:52PM +0100, Bruce Stephens wrote > If a person unknown to me can send me an email that I want to receive > (and I want them to be able to), then that person can send me unwanted > email (and I don't want them to be able to do that, but I see no way > to stop it without also preventing the possibility of wanted email). You've hit the nail on the head there. This has given me an inspiration that'll appear as a long message in a day or so. > So I think the best way to attack spam is to make sending email > expensive (in some way---this may involve computational cost rather > than some kind of financial framework) such that anybody sending me > email thinks a bit first (and so it won't be worthwhile sending to > large numbers of people). So this would be attacking the volume part > of usual definitions of spam. A few problems... 1) I don't throw away a pefectly good computer and buy the latest/greatest every year. This email is coming from a 433 mhz machine with 128 megs of RAM. How do I compare with someone who's just bought a 512 meg machine that runs at 3 gigahertz ? 2) A beowolf cluster of cast-off 1 gigahertz machines will blow the "computational cost" to smithereens. -- Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> Email users are divided into two classes; 1) Those who have effective spam-blocking 2) Those who wish they did _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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