Re: [Asrg] MX, was Adding a spam button to MUAs

der Mouse <mouse@Rodents-Montreal.ORG> Wed, 10 February 2010 18:53 UTC

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>> Do you think a political campaign that resulted in - say - all UK
>> educational establishments, or all .gov.uk domains (or both)
>> implementing such a rule would change their minds?  What if Google
>> also implemented the rule.

> BTW, are you suggesting that Internet Standards should be determined
> by what Google does?

Why not?  The "rough consensus" appears to be that "anything is
acceptable provided Google does it", so on "rough consensus and running
code" grounds, yes, what Google does _should_ set the spec.

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