RE: [Asrg] News Article - CONFESSIONS OF A FORMER SPAMMER etc.

"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com> Tue, 13 May 2003 12:59 UTC

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From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>
To: 'Barry Shein' <bzs@world.std.com>
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Subject: RE: [Asrg] News Article - CONFESSIONS OF A FORMER SPAMMER etc.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:03:20 -0700

> I agree 100%, and would add that the telling parts are where he keeps
> saying how he avoided this or that behavior because that would be
> illegal.
> 
> Yeah, right.

The guy was only making $1,000 a week sending out 18 million emails.
That is $7.60 for every MILLION messages he sends. His email servers
don't even make the minimum wage.

So maybe he was telling the truth and the fact is that small fry like
him make no real money unless they break the law. I suspect that the 
tales of spam senders making $10,000 a week are bogus.

Now look at it from the other side, how much does a million spams cost?
I don't think the $1 a message claim is credible but I would doubt the 
figure is less than a cent. That would mean $10,000 in costs to society
for him to make $7.60.

This is a marginal business that can be pushed under with a small scale
change in the economics. That does not have to be sender pays. Even small
scale enforcement of anti-spam laws would push a lot of the small fry
under.

		Phill


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