Re: [Asrg] Some data on the validity of MAIL FROM addresses

Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> Mon, 19 May 2003 14:56 UTC

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From: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:46:55 -0600

> From: Kee Hinckley <nazgul@somewhere.com>

> ...
> So.  Is it spam to send people email asking them to stop abusing your 
> email server?  Not by any stretch I can imagine. 

Nor in mine, provided you only ask one or two people instead of using
a so called "bitch list" of dozens to literally hundreds of addresses
of people at the other outfit who have nothing to do with it.

>                                                   But in today's 
> hair-trigger environment--it gets treated like it.

Especially when the message is unexpected and comes from somewhere.com.

I wonder if you would have had the same results if you'd sent the
complaints from some other domain name.


Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com
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