Re: [Asrg] Some data on the validity of MAIL FROM addresses

Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> Sun, 18 May 2003 23:26 UTC

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From: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Some data on the validity of MAIL FROM addresses
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Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 17:23:08 -0600

> From: "Alan DeKok" <aland@freeradius.org>

> > While it's always nice to see some numbers, I'm not sure what
> > these figures are actually measuring. For instance, yahoo will give a
> > positive reply for a random mailbox in RCPT TO, delaying rejection until
> > after DATA. I think the response after data will indicate if the account
> > doesn't exist or has been (recently) terminated.
>
>   Even worse, there is no proven connection between the spam and the
> hotmail/yahoo account which is allegedly the sender.  The data are
> entirely consistent with spammers using lists of verified email
> addresses to forge 'From:' lines.
> ...

That would be make sense only if the number of hotmail/yahoo spam
sender addresses were proportional to the number of hotmail/yahoo
addresses among all targets of spam.  Unless you think that most spam
targets are at free providers, you must assume that spammers have some
reason for prefering to send as if from free providers.


Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com
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