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Re: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...

Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> Thu, 05 June 2003 19:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...
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On June 5, 2003 at 12:26 dja2003@hotpop.com (Dave Aronson) wrote:
 >  > But mailing lists are not unsolicited, there's an implied consent in
 >  > your act of subscription, non?
 > 
 > Right, but Barry was speaking of removing the issue of consent from the 
 > definition of spam, 'defining any "bulk mailing" as spamming.'  I'm 
 > trying to get a sense of whether he really means that.  The alternative 
 > is that he was just using hyperbole, and there is, after all, some sort 
 > of alternate line he would endorse, between legit bulk mail and spam.

I'm saying that focusing on the "consent" aspect is not only futile
but ultimately going to backfire.

Better to focus on the fraud aspects as a first step because they're
easier to agree on and define and, I hope, act upon.

Besides, w/o the various fraud aspects I suspect much spam is sunk, no
matter how you define spam.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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