Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as a punishment
David Romerstein <hanov3r@gmail.com> Tue, 24 January 2012 18:33 UTC
Return-Path: <hanov3r@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix)
with ESMTP id A617011E8088 for <asrg@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:21 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com
[127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jVftecgc7JrI for
<asrg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com
[209.85.212.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134A111E809D for
<asrg@irtf.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:20 -0800 (PST)
Received: by vbbfa15 with SMTP id fa15so1260406vbb.13 for <asrg@irtf.org>;
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:20 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references
:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
bh=TGAXgJpwZx3OLk8Ht1C11DHR5L96y9Kg9+k4hseE2LI=;
b=beR+2EUxFdDx29PhPD6UbG0Q/nqKOYasmAvd2nFE7J99fbJXRRGwNXQ44xkBX6zJpJ
HFjKRoOpkGaeI084mq1u1KoAzKEErhda9rwULDuNSyGh31951HabmffFhMHHbiVG1rl9
hCVr93aGwoBBxU4lb5tcuIEPVGNfIfKgO1z4k=
Received: by 10.52.76.196 with SMTP id m4mr6669832vdw.112.1327430000329;
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:20 -0800 (PST)
Received: from h111.home.com (c-68-81-175-116.hsd1.pa.comcast.net.
[68.81.175.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
eh3sm15285682vdc.2.2012.01.24.10.33.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:19 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <4F1EF96D.8010708@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:33:17 -0500
From: David Romerstein <hanov3r@gmail.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: asrg@irtf.org
References: <18B53BA2A483AD45962AAD1397BE13253846E0FE87@UK-EXCHMBX1.green.sophos>
<4F1ECBE4.1050802@bofhland.org> <20120124153531.GA8414@gsp.org>
<4F1ED3CA.5040200@bofhland.org> <20120124182349.GR27359@chaosreigns.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120124182349.GR27359@chaosreigns.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as a punishment
X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg@irtf.org>
List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg.irtf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.irtf.org/mailman/options/asrg>,
<mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.irtf.org/mail-archive/web/asrg>
List-Post: <mailto:asrg@irtf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>,
<mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:33:21 -0000
On 1/24/12 1:23 PM, darxus@chaosreigns.com wrote: > As I tried to say in the past, having a value to return for all > queries from a DNS server that has been deemed abusive is *useful* to > black/whitelist providers. Enough that it's looking like it'll be done > whether the ASRG likes it or not. If you'd prefer something other than > 127.0.0.1 to be used, document it somewhere. Following with RFC 6471, would it be possible to do a split zone (abusive/non-abusive), sending abusive IPs to do their loopups from IP addresses in TEST-NET RFC-5735 addresses? -- D
- [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as a p… Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… darxus
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John R. Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Derek Diget
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Chris Lewis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Brendan Hide
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis