Re: [Asrg] SPF: Summary of Objections

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Tue, 17 June 2003 18:15 UTC

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> Most objections to SPF have come from people who

Note that this summary does not discuss technical concerns, but simply
attacks and dismisses those who raise objections.

Given that ASRG is intended to conduct technical discussion and that
that requires responding to technical concerns with serious, technical
answers, the main objection to SPF is that so far it is not a serious
technical effort.

If that ever changes, it might (or might not) be worth serious
consideration.  However the best path, for now, is to avoid feeding a
topic that is focused on dismissing criticism, rather than responding
to them seriously.

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