Re: [Asrg] Removing the incentive to spam

Kee Hinckley <nazgul@somewhere.com> Sat, 17 May 2003 16:23 UTC

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To: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
From: Kee Hinckley <nazgul@somewhere.com>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 02:42:41 -0400

At 7:33 PM -0600 5/16/03, Vernon Schryver wrote:
>  > I suspect we'll see legitimate mailers sending more included graphics
>>  soon as well.  MSN and Hotmail are both providing (or about to)
>>  provide filters to turn off automatic inclusion of external graphics.
>>  And the next Outlook is supposedly shipping with the option off by
>>  default.  None of that bodes well for content-filters.
>>  ...
>
>That does not follow on two counts.
>
>There's no law that says that "content-filters" can't recognize
>identical pictures.  Spam pictures are likely to vary less than spam

When I say "content-filtering" I'm talking about the stuff that 
happens on a solo desktop that may or may not be connected to the 
internet.  Any type of checksum comparison involves a centralized 
service.  I would normally put that in a different category.  (Time 
for me to go reread the last taxonomy of solutions document.) You're 
right.  That type of filtering may do well with  pictures.  Of course 
you may have to deal with random fuzz there too....

>Such changes will cause fewer total graphics in all mail, if you count
>URLs pointing to pictures as "graphics," as I think you must.  Some

I don't.  Because the conversation was about the size of email on the 
mail server.

>The biggest thing MSN, AOL, and Hotmail could do against spam is turn
>off HTML by default.

Turning off email completely would work as well.  Outside of the 
technical community almost all the email I see is HTML.  I don't 
think it's going to happen--whether or not it should.
-- 
Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/          Junk-Free Email Filtering
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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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