Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys]

Mark Baugher <mbaugher@cisco.com> Thu, 20 May 2004 00:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys]
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At 11:46 AM 5/19/2004, William Leibzon wrote:

>Big problem I have with it is that yahoo domain keys breaks with email
>forwarders, mail lists and roaming users (and they fully acknoledge that
>it does not work with them and say there is no good work-around). That
>makes it no-go as far as I concerned for initial deployment unless
>changes are made.

You're assuming that there's no way to fix the break.


>And frankly, I'm less then satisfied after so many promises and lots of
>wait for it. Its long document (which I ready fully) that primarily just
>pounds on rather old idea of entering public key in dns and using private
>key to add signed header to email, this idea had been around for at least
>4 years (possibly more) and I thought they found ways around above listed

What is new is the signing of the header.  I don't believe that this
has been practiced since the days of PGP.  I don't know about PEM.

Mark

>and other similar problems when email content must be changed in process
>of tranmission by intermediate server, but unfortunetly they did not. Nor
>do they address entering keys too well, again we're back to reusing TXT
>(where as what we need is standard for entering public keys in DNS and
>this is needed not only for email but for several others things and in
>general would come usefull, there have been drafts about this actually).
>
>On Tue, 18 May 2004, Yakov Shafranovich wrote:
>
> >  From MARID list.
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:46:32 -0400
> > From: Larry Seltzer <larry@larryseltzer.com>
> > To: 'IETF MARID WG' <ietf-mxcomp@imc.org>
> >
> >
> > (see http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys in particular)
> >
> > LJS
> >
> > Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys
> >
> > E-mail Authentication Solution Filed with IETF;
> >
> > Alpha Version of Open Source Code Available
> >
> > WHAT:
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 18, Yahoo! announces the publication of its
> > specification on DomainKeys,
> > a cryptographic e-mail authentication solution to help fight spam.
> >
> > DomainKeys: In order to attack spam at its roots, a powerful solution is
> > needed that can
> > verify the identity of the e-mail sender and put an end to spoofing and
> > forgery.
> > DomainKeys help fight spam by providing strong assurance of both the
> > sender's identity
> > and the integrity of the e-mail content through the use of
> > public/private key
> > cryptography.
> >
> > On Monday, May 17, the company filed the spec as an Internet-draft with
> > the IETF
> > (Internet Engineering Task Force) standards body to begin the
> > standardization process.
> >
> > Additionally, Yahoo! is currently developing a reference implementation
> > for DomainKeys
> > that can be plugged into Message Transfer Agents (MTAs), such as qmail.
> > An alpha version
> > of this software will be released under a royalty free license at
> > SourceForge.net.
> >
> > WHERE:
> >
> > The specification, license terms and FAQs are posted on Yahoo!'s
> > Anti-Spam Resource
> > Center:  http://antispam.yahoo.com
> > The alpha version of the software will be hosted at SourceForge.net at:
> > http://sourceforge.net/index.php
> >
> > --
> > Yakov Shafranovich / asrg <at> shaftek.org
> > SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. / research <at> solidmatrix.com
> > "There is nothing new under the sun" (Eccls. 1:9)
> >
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