Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys]
Mark Baugher <mbaugher@cisco.com> Thu, 20 May 2004 00:00 UTC
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To: William Leibzon <william@completewhois.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys]
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At 11:46 AM 5/19/2004, William Leibzon wrote: >Big problem I have with it is that yahoo domain keys breaks with email >forwarders, mail lists and roaming users (and they fully acknoledge that >it does not work with them and say there is no good work-around). That >makes it no-go as far as I concerned for initial deployment unless >changes are made. You're assuming that there's no way to fix the break. >And frankly, I'm less then satisfied after so many promises and lots of >wait for it. Its long document (which I ready fully) that primarily just >pounds on rather old idea of entering public key in dns and using private >key to add signed header to email, this idea had been around for at least >4 years (possibly more) and I thought they found ways around above listed What is new is the signing of the header. I don't believe that this has been practiced since the days of PGP. I don't know about PEM. Mark >and other similar problems when email content must be changed in process >of tranmission by intermediate server, but unfortunetly they did not. Nor >do they address entering keys too well, again we're back to reusing TXT >(where as what we need is standard for entering public keys in DNS and >this is needed not only for email but for several others things and in >general would come usefull, there have been drafts about this actually). > >On Tue, 18 May 2004, Yakov Shafranovich wrote: > > > From MARID list. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys > > Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:46:32 -0400 > > From: Larry Seltzer <larry@larryseltzer.com> > > To: 'IETF MARID WG' <ietf-mxcomp@imc.org> > > > > > > (see http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys in particular) > > > > LJS > > > > Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification for DomainKeys > > > > E-mail Authentication Solution Filed with IETF; > > > > Alpha Version of Open Source Code Available > > > > WHAT: > > > > On Tuesday, May 18, Yahoo! announces the publication of its > > specification on DomainKeys, > > a cryptographic e-mail authentication solution to help fight spam. > > > > DomainKeys: In order to attack spam at its roots, a powerful solution is > > needed that can > > verify the identity of the e-mail sender and put an end to spoofing and > > forgery. > > DomainKeys help fight spam by providing strong assurance of both the > > sender's identity > > and the integrity of the e-mail content through the use of > > public/private key > > cryptography. > > > > On Monday, May 17, the company filed the spec as an Internet-draft with > > the IETF > > (Internet Engineering Task Force) standards body to begin the > > standardization process. > > > > Additionally, Yahoo! is currently developing a reference implementation > > for DomainKeys > > that can be plugged into Message Transfer Agents (MTAs), such as qmail. > > An alpha version > > of this software will be released under a royalty free license at > > SourceForge.net. > > > > WHERE: > > > > The specification, license terms and FAQs are posted on Yahoo!'s > > Anti-Spam Resource > > Center: http://antispam.yahoo.com > > The alpha version of the software will be hosted at SourceForge.net at: > > http://sourceforge.net/index.php > > > > -- > > Yakov Shafranovich / asrg <at> shaftek.org > > SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. / research <at> solidmatrix.com > > "There is nothing new under the sun" (Eccls. 1:9) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Asrg mailing list > > Asrg@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Asrg mailing list >Asrg@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specification … Yakov Shafranovich
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- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… John Levine
- [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Philip Miller
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Alan DeKok
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys George Ou
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Mark Baugher
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Matt Sergeant
- Re: [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys der Mouse
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… William Leibzon
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys William Leibzon
- Re: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys George Ou
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Matthew Elvey
- RE: [Asrg] 6 - Yahoo Domain Keys Chris
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- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… John Capo
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Matthew Elvey
- Re: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… William Leibzon
- RE: [Asrg] [Fwd: Yahoo! Mail Publishes Specificat… Chris