Re: [Asrg] Development of an object assessment format/protocol

Martijn Grooten <martijn.grooten@virusbtn.com> Mon, 04 March 2013 15:46 UTC

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Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> And all of these are great, except: they all use different ways to express
> information.  Some of them can be queried; some can't.  Some of them carry
> metadata like "how did we decide this?" or 'when did we decide this?" or
> "for further reference, see:" and some don't.
> Some of them support methods for asking narrower/broader questions,
> some of them don't.

Is the reason different sources use different ways to express information the fact that there is no suitable protocol? Or is it a mere consequence of the fact that sources have different things they are willing and able to share?

I think the idea is nice. Whether such a format is really needed I'm not sure. I can see how having more information available makes for better decisions, but I am worried the accuracy gained isn't worth the performance lost.

Perhaps you can come up with examples of where such a protocol would be useful?

Martijn.


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