Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as a punishment
Dave Warren <lists@hireahit.com> Sat, 28 January 2012 00:51 UTC
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On 1/26/2012 10:27 AM, Douglas Otis wrote: > To support touted performance feature, chrome aggressively resolves > links in advance. This strategy makes chrome sensitive to DNS > performance. Cache in their recursive resolvers is kept current ahead > of requests. People addicted to speed. ;^) I might be being argumentative for it's own sake (sorry), but doesn't this make Chrome less sensitive to DNS performance rather than more sensitive? With a browser that doesn't pre-cache DNS lookups, the user is aware of DNS latency every time they click a link and with every resource that the browser loads from a different domain. Conversely, with caching, in most cases pre-caching every link on a page will take longer than it takes the user to find a link and click on it even if the DNS cache is extremely slow. Now I'd agree that faster DNS servers makes a noticeable difference when browsing since many websites load content from a dozen or more hostname, but I'd argue that Chrome's precaching makes it less sensitive to slow DNS queries. -- Dave Warren, CEO Hire A Hit Consulting Services http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren
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- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… darxus
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John R. Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… David Romerstein
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Derek Diget
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Chris Lewis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Paul Smith
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Brendan Hide
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… John Levine
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Steve Atkins
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… SM
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Dave Warren
- Re: [Asrg] RFC 6471 and "listing the Internet" as… Douglas Otis