Re: [Asrg] This mail list has been hacked

Kee Hinckley <nazgul@somewhere.com> Tue, 27 May 2003 00:50 UTC

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To: Terri Oda <terri@zone12.com>
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:46:19 -0400

At 5:34 PM -0400 5/26/03, Terri Oda wrote:
>Might I suggest an upgrade of the list software to Mailman  2.1, if only for
>the better archive-munging?

The list is also being archived in other public locations, so that 
isn't going to help much.

Onless you are using disposable addresses, I don't see much point in 
list address munging.  I have addresses that have been exposed once, 
and others (like this one) that have been exposed in thousands of 
locations.  After a couple years the spam is pretty much the same.
-- 
Kee Hinckley
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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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