Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs

Franck Martin <franck@avonsys.com> Wed, 16 December 2009 03:06 UTC

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From: Franck Martin <franck@avonsys.com>
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This is the story of the remote command for the VCR

After extensive studies with real people, and all the possibilities to record a channel while watching another channel and program recording at will. Manufacturers have realized people were using only one button: Record Now!

People don't want options, they just want simplicity.

Studies in email have also shown people use the spam button to just mean: I don't want to see these emails anymore.

The approach taken by google is interesting, because the report spam button, in the right conditions will act as an unsubscribe button, which can be easily supplant an FBL. I think this is what we are talking about here.

Franck Martin 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Kulawiec" <rsk@gsp.org>
To: "Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF" <asrg@irtf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009 2:48:00 PM GMT +12:00 New Zealand
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs

I think allowing end users access to such a button is a terrible idea.
This is the same population that routinely replies to spam, falls for
phishes, and fails to correctly execute rudimentary tasks like unsubscribing
from a mailing list or trimming quoted material from replies.  It would
be simpler and about as accurate to simply check a random number generator's
output for a "spam?/not-spam?" opinion.

---Rsk

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