Re: [Asrg] Report-as-Spam header

SM <sm@resistor.net> Sun, 10 June 2012 19:41 UTC

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Hi Brendan,
At 09:26 10-06-2012, Brendan Hide wrote:
>Has a spam reporting header been considered, similar to the 
>List-Unsubscribe header in RFC2369? Already many Bulk Mail service 
>providers provide readable headers directing recipients where to 
>send spam complaints. I don't think this is standardised in any way however.

[snip]

>The notion of being able to report back to the responsible ISP/mail 
>server directly without going through a long process is attractive. 
>In some environments a relay cluster with outbound anti-spam 
>scanning could even report high-spam-scoring mails with little to no 
>human intervention.

Have you considered using ARF (RFC 5965)?  Please also see some of 
the work from the IETF MARF working group.

Regards,
-sm